NetBSD Problem Report #33351

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From: solarux@hotmail.com
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Subject: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD
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>Number:         33351
>Category:       port-atari
>Synopsis:       Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    port-atari-maintainer
>State:          closed
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Apr 24 16:40:00 +0000 2006
>Closed-Date:    Mon Apr 30 22:35:41 +0000 2012
>Last-Modified:  Mon Apr 30 22:35:41 +0000 2012
>Originator:     Rick
>Release:        3.0
>Organization:
none
>Environment:
Atari TT030, 8-Megs, ...
>Description:
Hi All,
Is there an  installation/floppies directory available ?
according to the manual the "boot" floppies are supposed to be in .../installation/floppies/boot.fs ?
but there isn't any.
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/atari/installation/

...and it also isn't on the ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/iso/3.0/ataricd-3.0.iso CD image file which i recently created.
Is there a workaround, or doc error here ?

thanks,

Rick.
please reply to email:
solarux@hotmail.com
>How-To-Repeat:
cannot install NetBSD 3.0 on Atarti TT030
>Fix:

>Release-Note:

>Audit-Trail:
From: Julian Coleman <jdc@coris.org.uk>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:15:10 +0100

 > Is there an  installation/floppies directory available ?
 > according to the manual the "boot" floppies are supposed to be in .../installation/floppies/boot.fs ?
 > but there isn't any.
 > ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-3.0/atari/installation/
 > 
 > ...and it also isn't on the ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/iso/3.0/ataricd-3.0.iso CD image file which i recently created.
 > Is there a workaround, or doc error here ?

 Because of a problem creating the boot floppy images, these aren't provided
 at the moment.  It's a bug that the documentation still mentions them.  The
 workaround is to unpack and copy the BOOT or BOOTX kernel from the
 binary/kernels directory to a floppy, along with loadbsd.ttp from the
 installation/misc directory.  The other utilities are also in the
 installation/misc directory.

 J

 -- 
   My other computer also runs NetBSD    /        Sailing at Newbiggin
         http://www.netbsd.org/        /   http://www.newbigginsailingclub.org/

From: "Rick Nekus" <solarux@hotmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on
 your site, or the CD
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:37:16 +0000

 <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>
 <P>Hi all,</P>
 <P>&nbsp;</P>
 <P>-Ant News yet? regarding the below NetbSD 3.0 &nbsp;problem for Atari?<BR><BR></P></DIV>
 <DIV></DIV>
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 <DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;gnats-admin@netbsd.org<BR>Reply-To:&nbsp;&nbsp;gnats-bugs@netbsd.org<BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;solarux@hotmail.com<BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD<BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:40:00 +0000 (UTC)<BR>&gt;Thank you very much for your problem report.<BR>&gt;It has the internal identification `port-atari/33351'.<BR>&gt;The individual assigned to look at your<BR>&gt;report is: port-atari-maintainer.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Category:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; port-atari<BR>&gt; &gt;Responsible:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;port-atari-maintainer<BR>&gt; &gt;Synopsis:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD<BR>&gt; &gt;Arrival-Date:&nbsp;&nbsp; Mon Apr 24 16:40:00 +0000 
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From: Julian Coleman <jdc@coris.org.uk>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org, solarux@hotmail.com
Cc: 
Subject: Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 10:31:08 +0100

 >  -Ant News yet? regarding the below NetbSD 3.0 problem for Atari?

 Hi,

 I guess that my reply didn't arrive, so I'm sending it directly this time:

  Because of a problem creating the boot floppy images, these aren't provided
  at the moment.  It's a bug that the documentation still mentions them.  The
  workaround is to unpack and copy the BOOT or BOOTX kernel from the
  binary/kernels directory to a floppy, along with loadbsd.ttp from the
  installation/misc directory.  The other utilities are also in the
  installation/misc directory.

 J

 -- 
   My other computer also runs NetBSD    /        Sailing at Newbiggin
         http://www.netbsd.org/        /   http://www.newbigginsailingclub.org/

From: "Rick Nekus" <solarux@hotmail.com>
To: jdc@coris.org.uk, gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: rfviau@hotmail.com, solarus@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on
 your site, or the CD
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 14:30:25 +0000

 <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>
 <P>Hey Julian,</P>
 <P>-Thanks for replying.</P>
 <P>ya I&nbsp;did see your reply post on the NetBSD "gnats-bugs" message board/newsgroup, i was expecting an email reply at first -I should have checked the board initially.</P>
 <P>&nbsp;-my freind has a TT030 (with 8 Megs Ram, and 2 internal scsi HD's), along with a dozen other Atari's, but he is in Montreal,&nbsp;and I'm in Ottawa and I'm helping him ( a lot of help I am ? :). He just recently got Internet, and i'll be bringing him the NetBSD 3 CD's I burnt for him, unless he's burnt them already.?</P>
 <P>anyway, the ways it sounds in your instructions below,&nbsp;is that instead of "booting" directly from the floppy, the kernel,... is loaded (via loadbsd.ttp) into memory and the sysinst is started from that ?</P>
 <P>&nbsp;Along with the "RamDisk" Quick installation using CD as the media in the NetBSD 3.0 installation/doc, and with the boot&nbsp;method you recommend below this will work barring any hardware/driver problems. ?</P>
 <P>&nbsp;</P>
 <P>we'll let you know.</P>
 <P>much appreciated.</P>
 <P>Rick. and Randy</P>
 <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR></P></DIV>
 <DIV></DIV>
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 <DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;Julian Coleman &lt;jdc@coris.org.uk&gt;<BR>Reply-To:&nbsp;&nbsp;gnats-bugs@netbsd.org<BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;port-atari-maintainer@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org,netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org, solarux@hotmail.com<BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD<BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;Sun, 7 May 2006 09:35:01 +0000 (UTC)<BR>&gt;The following reply was made to PR port-atari/33351; it has been noted by GNATS.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;From: Julian Coleman &lt;jdc@coris.org.uk&gt;<BR>&gt;To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org, solarux@hotmail.com<BR>&gt;Cc:<BR>&gt;Subject: Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD<BR>&gt;Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 10:31:08 +0100<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;-Ant News yet? regarding the below 
 NetbSD 3.0 problem for Atari?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;I guess that my reply didn't arrive, so I'm sending it directly this time:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Because of a problem creating the boot floppy images, these aren't provided<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; at the moment.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's a bug that the documentation still mentions them.&nbsp;&nbsp;The<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; workaround is to unpack and copy the BOOT or BOOTX kernel from the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; binary/kernels directory to a floppy, along with loadbsd.ttp from the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; installation/misc directory.&nbsp;&nbsp;The other utilities are also in the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; installation/misc directory.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;J<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;--<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My other computer also runs 
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From: Alan Hourihane <alanh@fairlite.demon.co.uk>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: port-atari/33351
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:04:20 +0100

 I've now got NetBSD 3.0 to boot on my Atari TT030, but when using the
 miniroot.fs and trying to select the disk it says....

 "
 The installation program needs to know which disk to consider
 the root disk. Note the unit number may be different than
 the unit number you used in the standalone installation program.

 Available disks are:

 sort: not found


 Which disk is the root disk ?
 "

 Now, obviously the "sort" program needs to be put onto the miniroot.fs,
 as this also happens with NetBSD 2.1 for atari too.

 Can someone fix the miniroot.fs ??

 Alan.

From: Julian Coleman <jdc@coris.org.uk>
To: Rick Nekus <solarux@hotmail.com>
Cc: 
Subject: Re: port-atari/33351: Cannot find atarti/.../installation/floppies/boot.fs on your site, or the CD
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 06:44:52 +0100

 > anyway, the ways it sounds in your instructions below,&nbsp;is that instead
 > of "booting" directly from the floppy, the kernel,... is loaded (via
 > loadbsd.ttp) into memory and the sysinst is started from that ?

 Yes.  You should also be able to copy the TOS binaries, kernel and fs images
 to a folder on the hard disk and use them from there.  That might be easier
 if you have them on CD.

 > Along with the "RamDisk" Quick installation using CD as the media in
 > the NetBSD 3.0 installation/doc, and with the boot method you recommend    
 > below this will work barring any hardware/driver problems. ?

 Yes.  It should do.

 J

 -- 
   My other computer also runs NetBSD    /        Sailing at Newbiggin
         http://www.netbsd.org/        /   http://www.newbigginsailingclub.org/

State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
State-Changed-By: dholland@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:12:16 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Is this still a problem?


State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed
State-Changed-By: dholland@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:35:41 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Feedback timeout and PR was about 3.x. If anyone sees this problem
again, write in or open a new PR, but as I recall it got fixed
during the netbsd-5 release cycle.


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