NetBSD Problem Report #53536

From htodd@i8u.org  Fri Aug 17 20:14:24 2018
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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:14:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: htodd@twofifty.com
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To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Subject: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
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>Number:         53536
>Category:       misc
>Synopsis:       www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    misc-bug-people
>State:          closed
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Aug 17 20:15:01 +0000 2018
>Closed-Date:    Sun Jan 01 03:38:45 +0000 2023
>Last-Modified:  Sun Jan 01 03:38:45 +0000 2023
>Originator:     Hisashi T Fujinaka - htodd@twofifty.com
>Release:        now
>Organization:
>Environment:
MacOS X 10.13.6


System: Mac
Architecture: x86_64
Machine: amd64
>Description:
Looks like I'm seeing the mobile site on my mac and the letters are huge and useless.

>How-To-Repeat:
Just go to http://www.netbsd.org

>Fix:
Necessary


>Release-Note:

>Audit-Trail:
From: Jason Thorpe <thorpej@me.com>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:55:56 -0700

 > On Aug 17, 2018, at 1:15 PM, htodd@twofifty.com wrote:

 > Looks like I'm seeing the mobile site on my mac and the letters are =
 huge and useless.

 I'm not able to reproduce this on my Mac running the 10.14 developer =
 preview.

 -- thorpej

From: Hisashi T Fujinaka <htodd@twofifty.com>
To: Jason Thorpe <thorpej@me.com>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT)

 On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, Jason Thorpe wrote:

 >
 >
 >> On Aug 17, 2018, at 1:15 PM, htodd@twofifty.com wrote:
 >
 >> Looks like I'm seeing the mobile site on my mac and the letters are huge and useless.
 >
 > I'm not able to reproduce this on my Mac running the 10.14 developer preview.

 Neither am I, but I said Safari, not some beta.

 -- 
 Hisashi T Fujinaka - htodd@twofifty.com
 BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee

From: Alistair Crooks <agc@pkgsrc.org>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: misc-bug-people@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org, 
	htodd@twofifty.com
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:32:10 -0700

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 >
 >
 >  Neither am I, but I said Safari, not some beta.
 >
 >
 > I'm not able to reproduce this on Safari (Version 11.1.2 (13605.3.8)) on
 my Mac running the standard High Sierra 10.13.6 release.

 -- agc

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From: Jason Thorpe <thorpej@me.com>
To: Hisashi T Fujinaka <htodd@twofifty.com>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 15:35:34 -0700

 > On Aug 17, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka <htodd@twofifty.com> =
 wrote:
 >=20
 > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018, Jason Thorpe wrote:
 >=20
 >>=20
 >>=20
 >>> On Aug 17, 2018, at 1:15 PM, htodd@twofifty.com wrote:
 >>=20
 >>> Looks like I'm seeing the mobile site on my mac and the letters are =
 huge and useless.
 >>=20
 >> I'm not able to reproduce this on my Mac running the 10.14 developer =
 preview.
 >=20
 > Neither am I, but I said Safari, not some beta.

 Yes, you said "Safari", which is the name of Apple's web browser.  It =
 exists on quite a number of MacOS X / OS X / macOS releases going back =
 quite some ways, including macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) as well as macOS =
 10.14 (Mojave, which, as you say, is still in beta).

 As I said, I am unable to reproduce this on the macOS 10.14 preview, and =
 I just double-checked one of my other Macs running 10.13.6, and I can't =
 reproduce it there, either.

 I suggest you check to see if you've set the User Agent setting in the =
 Safari "Develop" menu to something other than the default (although I =
 just tried setting it to present as the iPhone user agent and the page =
 loaded as before, so *shrug*).

 -- thorpej

From: Robert Elz <kre@munnari.OZ.AU>
To: Jason Thorpe <thorpej@me.com>
Cc: Hisashi T Fujinaka <htodd@twofifty.com>, gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org,
        netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 12:27:28 +0700

 I asked a friend who uses MacOS 10.12.6 (so an older version) and
 he said that with that, the page rendered by Safari looks just like it
 does when viewed with Firefox.

 I'd assume some local configuration problem.

 kre

From: coypu@sdf.org
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 05:57:34 +0000

 I am responsible for this. This is the rule I use, in global.css:

 @media only screen and (max-device-width: 800px),
        only screen and (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 800px),
        only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 800px) {

 I added "and (max-device-width: 800px)" because my 2011 phone isn't HiDPI,
 but I can remove this or tweak it so it doesn't apply for more users.

From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: maya@NetBSD.org
Subject: Re: misc/53536: www.netbsd.org doesn't work on Safari
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2018 08:52:34 +0200

 The selection is done like this in the css:

 /* mobile overrides:
  * narrow monitor (attempting to match non-hidpi phones)
  * or hidpi and 800px width
  * or webkit and hidpi and 800px width */
 @media only screen and (max-device-width: 800px),
        only screen and (min-resolution: 2dppx) and (max-width: 800px),
        only screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) and (max-width: 800px
 ) {


 Does any of that apply to your device, or your Safari not evaluate
 some of that properly?

 Martin

From: "Maya Rashish" <maya@netbsd.org>
To: gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: PR/53536 CVS commit: htdocs
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:26:46 +0000

 Module Name:	htdocs
 Committed By:	maya
 Date:		Mon Apr 13 19:26:46 UTC 2020

 Modified Files:
 	htdocs: global.css

 Log Message:
 Stop matching non-HiDPI low width as favouring a mobile setup.

 This caused some complaints because several people use narrow browser
 windows, and my non-hidpi phone has kicked the bucket.

 PR misc/53536


 To generate a diff of this commit:
 cvs rdiff -u -r1.100 -r1.101 htdocs/global.css

 Please note that diffs are not public domain; they are subject to the
 copyright notices on the relevant files.

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
State-Changed-By: htodd@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Sun, 01 Jan 2023 03:38:45 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Issue appears resolved.


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