NetBSD Problem Report #53574

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From: dario@darioniedermann.it
Reply-To: dario@darioniedermann.it
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Subject: UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac 7,1
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>Number:         53574
>Category:       install
>Synopsis:       UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac 7,1
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    install-manager
>State:          closed
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Sep 05 16:10:00 +0000 2018
>Closed-Date:    Sun Dec 22 17:00:22 +0000 2019
>Last-Modified:  Thu Dec 26 18:15:01 +0000 2019
>Originator:     Dario Niedermann
>Release:        8.0
>Organization:
>Environment:
>Description:
Trying to install NetBSD-8.0/amd64 onto an iMac 7,1* (mid-2007, Intel Core 2 Duo, 1GB RAM) using the 'NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz' image, uncompressed and dumped to an USB stick.

The USB stick is seen by Apple's boot manager (option key held down at start), and it boots up to a point.

It gets to the first 4-option menu, shown in small grey type within a square area in the middle of the screen. From here, if I select:

(1) numbers are printed and the cursor flickers for a while, then the area is cleared and the underline cursor goes to the area's top left. After this, the screen flickers briefly: white, then black. I get a small white block cursor at the top left of the black screen, then nothing;

(2) to disable ACPI: numbers, flickering cursor; the area is cleared and the grey underline cursor goes to the area's top left; then nothing;

(3) to disable ACPI and SMP: same thing as (2)

(4) I get the boot prompt. I try 'boot -c' and I get the same thing as (2).

So far, I have found no way to go further.


*full specs for the exact model: <https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-2.4-20-inch-aluminum-specs.html>

>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:

>Release-Note:

>Audit-Trail:

State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
State-Changed-By: maya@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 01:04:35 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Is this still an issue with netbsd-9 BETA? you can find binaries here:
https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-9/


From: Dario Niedermann <dario@darioniedermann.it>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 11:41:59 +0100

 Il 23/10/2019 alle 03:04, maya@NetBSD.org ha scritto:

 >Is this still an issue with netbsd-9 BETA? [...]

 Do you have any *compelling* reason to think the issue might be
 resolved? Because if you don't, I'm not wasting my time downloading
 hundreds of megs and trying to install a different OS on my main
 computer (which OF COURSE is running something else by now).

 Also, if you keep nagging me via email, the only result you get is
 that next time I won't report a problem. How the hell do you think you
 can pester me into installing an OS?? You should seriously rethink how
 you're managing this stuff, because you're actively discouraging people
 from contributing.

From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:29:19 +0100

 Yes, there are good chances the 9.0 installer will work better, but no,
 we do not know for sure.

 Your bug report sounds like something goes wrong when drm/kms takes over
 the gpu, but this is hard to debug w/o the hardware at hands.

 You can test boot the installer w/o doing any changes to your installed
 system, so I guess maya assumed it would not be a big deal for you to check.

 Martin

From: David Holland <dholland-bugs@netbsd.org>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 22:59:29 +0000

 On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 10:25:01PM +0000, Dario Niedermann wrote:
  >  Il 20/12/2019 alle 14:30, Rares Aioanei ha scritto:
  >  
  >  > Hey [...]
  >  
  >  Who [...]

 Both of you, please play nice. I'll delete these comments from the
 database, and I expect to see no more like them...

 -- 
 David A. Holland
 dholland@netbsd.org

State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed
State-Changed-By: maya@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:00:22 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Author would rather not re-test


From: Dario Niedermann <dario@darioniedermann.it>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:08:43 +0100

 If you want me to test the 9.0_RC1 release, please provide a link to a
 UEFI-bootable, amd64-compatible image, suitable for a USB stick.

 Your 'boot.iso', once dd'ed to a USB stick, is not detected by the iMac
 at boot.

From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:15:27 +0100

 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:10:02AM +0000, Dario Niedermann wrote:
 >  If you want me to test the 9.0_RC1 release, please provide a link to a
 >  UEFI-bootable, amd64-compatible image, suitable for a USB stick.

 https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-9/latest/images/NetBSD-9.0_RC1-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz


 (gunzip before dd'ing to the usb stick)

 Martin

From: Joerg Sonnenberger <joerg@bec.de>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:20:44 +0100

 On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:10:02AM +0000, Dario Niedermann wrote:
 > The following reply was made to PR install/53574; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: Dario Niedermann <dario@darioniedermann.it>
 > To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
 > Cc: 
 > Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 >  7,1)
 > Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 12:08:43 +0100
 > 
 >  If you want me to test the 9.0_RC1 release, please provide a link to a
 >  UEFI-bootable, amd64-compatible image, suitable for a USB stick.
 >  
 >  Your 'boot.iso', once dd'ed to a USB stick, is not detected by the iMac
 >  at boot.

 http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-9/latest/images/NetBSD-9.0_RC1-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz

 should be that?

 Joerg

From: Dario Niedermann <dario@darioniedermann.it>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53574 (UEFI installer not working past 1st menu on iMac
 7,1)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 19:10:12 +0100

 OK, here are the (disappointing) test results for image
 <https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-9/latest/images/NetBSD
 -9.0_RC1-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz>, uncompressed, dd'ed to a USB stick,
 and used to boot the above mentioned iMac:

 1. a small square-ish borderless window in the center of the black
    screen (same as my first report) is briefly filled with light-grey
    hexadecimal numbers; I catch a glimpse of "mem" at window's top
    left, before the numbers; all in standard, although small, VGA font;

 2. quickly, the window is cleared and the boot menu appears, same
    font, size and appearance. The menu has only 2 options:
    1 Install NetBSD, 2 Drop to boot prompt;

 3. choosing either option 1, or option 2 and giving 'boot -c': a number
    is printed, followed by a flickering underline cursor; after about 25
    seconds, 5 more numbers are printed and I catch a quick glimpse of a
    6th hex number preceded by an equal sign;

 4. the window is cleared and the non-blinking underline cursor is
    now at the window's top left; if I chose option 2 and gave 'boot -c',
    go to step #6;

 5. soon after, the keyboard leds flash briefly: on then off; the
    screen's backlight is turned off, then on, and the screen is now
    fully white for less than a second, then backlit black again; a
    small, non-blinking white block cursor appears at the screen's
    physical top left;

 6. nothing happens; after about 10 minutes of nothing, I either:
         6a. try the Ctrl+Alt+Del key combination: no reaction;
      or 6b. yank the USB stick out: no reaction;

 7. I finally press the iMac's power button on the back:
         7a. if I chose option 1 at step #3, a short press will do: the
             white block cursor blinks once; then the iMac is off;
         7b. if I chose option 2 at step #3, and gave 'boot -c', I need
             to keep the button pressed for long in order to turn the
             iMac off.

 All in all, not much -- if anything at all -- seems to have changed
 since my first report. I probably just noted some things in more detail.

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