NetBSD Problem Report #25165

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From: Hauke Fath <hf@spg.tu-darmstadt.de>
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Subject: mail/mailman package incomplete
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>Number:         25165
>Category:       pkg
>Synopsis:       The mailman 2.1.4 package in incomplete in various places
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    pkg-manager
>State:          feedback
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Apr 13 14:19:00 +0000 2004
>Closed-Date:    
>Last-Modified:  Sun Feb 21 16:27:33 +0000 2010
>Originator:     Hauke Fath <hf@spg.tu-darmstadt.de>
>Release:        NetBSD 1.6ZK
>Organization:

>Environment:


System: NetBSD bounce 1.6ZK NetBSD 1.6ZK (BOUNCE) #2: Tue Feb 17 16:58:47 CET 2004 hf@heiligenberg:/var/obj/netbsd-builds/i386/obj/sys/arch/i386/compile/BOUNCE i386
Architecture: i386
Machine: i386
>Description:

The mailman 2.1.4 package installs an incomplete setup that
has to be manually fixed up in several places. Apart from the
file permissions problem discussed in PR pkg/24041, I have come across:

(1) The conversion of a 2.0 database is far from trivial. See
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.032.htp
for details. The MESSAGE should note this if a /var/spool/mailman
direcory is present and populated.

(2) Mailman 2.1.4 wants a /usr/pkg/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner process
active for queuing list mail - see /usr/pkg/share/doc/mailman/INSTALL,
ch.4. The package does not come with a rc.d mailman script.

(3) The sample crontab for user mailman should probably go to
PKGBASE/share/examples/mailman (EGDIR).

>How-To-Repeat:

	Install mailman pkg, try to set up mailing list, then try to
	find out why things do not work.

>Fix:
	Left as an exercise to the package maintainer.  ;)
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
Responsible-Changed-From-To: pkg-manager->bouyer
Responsible-Changed-By: wiz@netbsd.org
Responsible-Changed-When: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 23:37:18 +0000
Responsible-Changed-Why:
Over to maintainer.


State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
State-Changed-By: bouyer@netbsd.org
State-Changed-When: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:53:04 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Hi,
the maillan package was since updated to 2.1.5. Does the current package still
have problems ?


State-Changed-From-To: feedback->open
State-Changed-By: wiz@netbsd.org
State-Changed-When: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:07:51 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Feedback supplied.


From: Hauke Fath <hf@spg.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: bouyer@netbsd.org
Cc: pkgsrc-bugs@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org,
	Hauke Fath <hf@spg.tu-darmstadt.de>
Subject: Re: pkg/25165
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:22:38 +0200

 Am 20.04.2005 um 20:53 Uhr +0000 schrieb bouyer@netbsd.org:
 >Synopsis: The mailman 2.1.4 package in incomplete in various places
 >
 >the maillan package was since updated to 2.1.5. Does the current package still
 >have problems ?

 Well, let's see...

 Am 13.04.2004 um 16:17 Uhr +0200 schrieb Hauke Fath:
 >The mailman 2.1.4 package installs an incomplete setup that
 >has to be manually fixed up in several places. Apart from the
 >file permissions problem discussed in PR pkg/24041,

 That was fixed in Feb 05, AFAICS.

 >I have come across:
 >
 >(1) The conversion of a 2.0 database is far from trivial. See
 >http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.032.htp
 >for details. The MESSAGE should note this if a /var/spool/mailman
 >direcory is present and populated.

 Still no hint in MESSAGE for updates from 2.0. While pkgsrc is 
 generally weak in that area ("Shoot^WDeinstall first, ask questions 
 later"), that upgrade is exceptionally messy. At least, MESSAGE 
 should point to the Mailman FAQ entry.

 >(2) Mailman 2.1.4 wants a /usr/pkg/lib/mailman/bin/qrunner process
 >active for queuing list mail - see /usr/pkg/share/doc/mailman/INSTALL,
 >ch.4. The package does not come with a rc.d mailman script.

 Fixed, from looking at files/mailman.sh.

 >(3) The sample crontab for user mailman should probably go to
 >PKGBASE/share/examples/mailman (EGDIR).

 You put the sample crontab into ${EXECDIR}/cron -- why? Do we keep 
 fstab.sample in /sbin?

 I'll update our mailman installation next week and report my experience.

 	hauke


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State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
State-Changed-By: bouyer@netbsd.org
State-Changed-When: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:10:06 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
We now have mailman-2.1.8rc1, is it sill an issue ?


From: Hauke Fath <hf@spg.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: bouyer@NetBSD.org, pkgsrc-bugs@NetBSD.org,
	gnats-admin@NetBSD.org, Hauke Fath <hf@spg.tu-darmstadt.de>
Subject: Re: pkg/25165 (The mailman 2.1.4 package in incomplete in various
 places)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:23:55 +0200

 Am 05.07.2006 um 17:10 Uhr +0000 schrieb bouyer@NetBSD.org:
 >Synopsis: The mailman 2.1.4 package in incomplete in various places
 >
 >State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
 >State-Changed-By: bouyer@netbsd.org
 >State-Changed-When: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:10:06 +0000
 >State-Changed-Why:
 >We now have mailman-2.1.8rc1, is it sill an issue ?

 Thanks for looking at the PR.

 There is still no hint from the package about potential problems with 
 upgrading from an existing 2.0 database. And the example crontab 
 still gets stuffed into lib/mailman/cron, whereas it should go to 
 share/examples/mailman.

 	hauke

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 /~\  The ASCII Ribbon Campaign                    Hauke Fath
 \ /    No HTML/RTF in email	        Institut für Nachrichtentechnik
   X     No Word docs in email	                  TU Darmstadt
 / \  Respect for open standards              Ruf +49-6151-16-3281

State-Changed-From-To: feedback->open
State-Changed-By: bouyer@netbsd.org
State-Changed-When: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:50:24 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Feedback has been provided, issue is not fixed.


Responsible-Changed-From-To: bouyer->pkg-manager
Responsible-Changed-By: bouyer@NetBSD.org
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:40:53 +0000
Responsible-Changed-Why:
I'm not maintaining mailman any more.


State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
State-Changed-By: wiz@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:27:33 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Since you definitely seem to care most -- can you please provide
patches?


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