NetBSD Problem Report #41455

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Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:05:45 +0000 (UTC)
From: nbsdold@gmx.net
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Subject: CD drive stalls during install
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>Number:         41455
>Category:       kern
>Synopsis:       CD drive stalls during install
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    kern-bug-people
>State:          closed
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Mon May 18 07:10:00 +0000 2009
>Closed-Date:    Sat May 20 19:10:18 +0000 2017
>Last-Modified:  Sat May 20 19:10:18 +0000 2017
>Originator:     Nino Ivanov
>Release:        5.0 and 4.x and maybe even 3.x
>Organization:
>Environment:
(Do not have it here, but it is just standard NetBSD, no custom compilations.)
>Description:
Dear Sir or Madam,

I experience on one machine (a laptop, Acer Aspire 3634 WLMi, an i386 machine with single-core Celeron processor) the problem that installation from the CD stalls and breaks off at some point.

Booting the installation CD and setting up everything including formatting the disk works fine. But when the sets shall be extracted, the drive speeds up, the sets are read until some point, and then I can hear the drive spin down again, and I get failure messages for the sets - that they could not be read.

The severity is non-critical (due to the workaround, see below), but in my opinion the priority is high - if others decide it is a problem with NetBSD's installation sets rather than their drive they might actually give up trying to install it.
>How-To-Repeat:
Try installing NetBSD with the official i386 CD-ROM on an Acer Aspire 3634 WLMi.
>Fix:
Place the image from the CD-ROM on a USB-stick on some working NetBSD machine (I think it is even possible from the installation disk):

dd if=/dev/cd0d of=/dev/sd0d

Then, when you are about to install the sets, plug in the USB-stick. The kernel messages will mess up your screen, but moving with the arrow keys around will re-paint the options that you can select. Select installation from CD-ROM, but change the drive to sd0a instead of the pre-set cd0a. Everything will be installed normally, and even quicker than using the real CD-ROM.

I think you can make an FTP-install, too, but the above method will save you some bandwidth.

>Release-Note:

>Audit-Trail:
From: David Holland <dholland-bugs@netbsd.org>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/41455: CD drive stalls during install
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:21:46 +0000

 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:10:01AM +0000, nbsdold@gmx.net wrote:
  > I experience on one machine (a laptop, Acer Aspire 3634 WLMi, an
  > i386 machine with single-core Celeron processor) the problem that
  > installation from the CD stalls and breaks off at some point.
  > 
  > Booting the installation CD and setting up everything including
  > formatting the disk works fine. But when the sets shall be
  > extracted, the drive speeds up, the sets are read until some point,
  > and then I can hear the drive spin down again, and I get failure
  > messages for the sets - that they could not be read.

 This has to be more or less the same underlying problem as 41453.

 Do you get any messages from the kernel when the cdrom goes out to
 lunch?

 What kind of cdrom drive is it?

 -- 
 David A. Holland
 dholland@netbsd.org

From: "Nino on NetBSD 4.0" <nbsdold@gmx.net>
To: dholland-bugs@netbsd.org, gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, install-manager@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/41455: CD drive stalls during install
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:52:08 +0200

 Indeed, I do see kernel messages when this happens. I do not remember them exactly, though. It was something like that the request timed out. I do not know the type of my drive - do you know any command whose output you would like to see in this regard?

 Thank you for your help.

 -------- Original-Nachricht --------
 > Datum: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:25:01 +0000 (UTC)
 > Von: David Holland <dholland-bugs@netbsd.org>
 > An: install-manager@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org, nbsdold@gmx.net
 > Betreff: Re: install/41455: CD drive stalls during install

 > The following reply was made to PR install/41455; it has been noted by
 > GNATS.
 > 
 > From: David Holland <dholland-bugs@netbsd.org>
 > To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
 > Cc: 
 > Subject: Re: install/41455: CD drive stalls during install
 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 03:21:46 +0000
 > 
 >  On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:10:01AM +0000, nbsdold@gmx.net wrote:
 >   > I experience on one machine (a laptop, Acer Aspire 3634 WLMi, an
 >   > i386 machine with single-core Celeron processor) the problem that
 >   > installation from the CD stalls and breaks off at some point.
 >   > 
 >   > Booting the installation CD and setting up everything including
 >   > formatting the disk works fine. But when the sets shall be
 >   > extracted, the drive speeds up, the sets are read until some point,
 >   > and then I can hear the drive spin down again, and I get failure
 >   > messages for the sets - that they could not be read.
 >  
 >  This has to be more or less the same underlying problem as 41453.
 >  
 >  Do you get any messages from the kernel when the cdrom goes out to
 >  lunch?
 >  
 >  What kind of cdrom drive is it?
 >  
 >  -- 
 >  David A. Holland
 >  dholland@netbsd.org
 >  

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Responsible-Changed-From-To: install-manager->kern-bug-people
Responsible-Changed-By: dholland@NetBSD.org
Responsible-Changed-When: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:07:04 +0000
Responsible-Changed-Why:
Problem is almost certainly driver-level.


State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
State-Changed-By: dholland@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 20:07:04 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
If you still have this problem, could you provide the output from dmesg
(this will how the cdrom type and how it's connected) and also the
exact kernel messages that are generated when it stops working.


State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed
State-Changed-By: dholland@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Sat, 20 May 2017 19:10:18 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
No feedback since 2011. Problem was with the cdrom drivers in 5.0 and
there's insufficient technical information in the PR to go chasing the
problem independently.


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