NetBSD Problem Report #46628

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From: dross@pobox.com
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Subject: Source sets missing on CD lead to install error
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>Number:         46628
>Category:       install
>Synopsis:       Source sets missing on CD lead to install error
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    install-manager
>State:          open
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jun 25 05:30:00 +0000 2012
>Last-Modified:  Tue Jun 26 18:55:01 +0000 2012
>Originator:     David Ross
>Release:        6 BETA2
>Organization:
n/a
>Environment:
n/a
>Description:
The source sets simply aren't on the ISO image.  So if you choose to install off of the CD and select the source sets, there is a somewhat annoying and unexpected failure.  It's not catastrophic, but how about putting the source sets into the ISO?  If they don't fit, why not build a DVD ISO with them included?  Or if that's not possible, you could update the install process a bit so at least this issue is obvious at the point you decide to install the source sets.
>How-To-Repeat:
Try to install off the CD and include the source sets.
>Fix:
Put the source sets in the ISO.

>Audit-Trail:
From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/46628: Source sets missing on CD lead to install error
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:47:39 +0200

 We should be able to install missing sets from different sources, i.e. use
 everything from CD but then go to http for the missing stuff, and/or revise
 set selection at the point where we notice there are problems.

 So far this is a sysinst issue.

 Putting the source set onto the official CD is a different issue: how many
 people will want a quick download to try and how many will need sources
 anyway. It could be argumented that official releases (and only those, not
 the daily builds) should offer both variants.

 Martin

From: David Ross <dross@pobox.com>
To: <gnats-bugs@netbsd.org>, <install-manager@netbsd.org>,
	<gnats-admin@netbsd.org>, <netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org>
Cc: 
Subject: RE: install/46628: Source sets missing on CD lead to install error
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:54:57 -0700

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 t and it will work.  It just looks like something in the install failed tha=
 t probably shouldn't have.  The first thing you might imagine is that the b=
 urned CD is bad=2C or something like that.  I agree that maybe the source s=
 ets shouldn't be there=2C to facilitate a quick download=2C but if that's t=
 he case then I just think the experience in sysinst should be polished a bi=
 t. David Rossdross@pobox.com > From: martin@duskware.de
 > To: install-manager@netbsd.org=3B gnats-admin@netbsd.org=3B netbsd-bugs@n=
 etbsd.org=3B dross@pobox.com
 > Subject: Re: install/46628: Source sets missing on CD lead to install err=
 or
 > CC:=20
 > Date: Mon=2C 25 Jun 2012 06:50:03 +0000
 >=20
 > The following reply was made to PR install/46628=3B it has been noted by =
 GNATS.
 >=20
 > From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
 > To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
 > Cc:=20
 > Subject: Re: install/46628: Source sets missing on CD lead to install err=
 or
 > Date: Mon=2C 25 Jun 2012 08:47:39 +0200
 >=20
 >  We should be able to install missing sets from different sources=2C i.e.=
  use
 >  everything from CD but then go to http for the missing stuff=2C and/or r=
 evise
 >  set selection at the point where we notice there are problems.
 > =20
 >  So far this is a sysinst issue.
 > =20
 >  Putting the source set onto the official CD is a different issue: how ma=
 ny
 >  people will want a quick download to try and how many will need sources
 >  anyway. It could be argumented that official releases (and only those=2C=
  not
 >  the daily builds) should offer both variants.
 > =20
 >  Martin
 > =20
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  issue: how many<br>&gt=3B  people will want a quick download to try and ho=
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From: matthew green <mrg@eterna.com.au>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: install-manager@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org,
    netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org, dross@pobox.com
Subject: re: install/46628: Source sets missing on CD lead to install error
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 04:50:45 +1000

 >  So far this is a sysinst issue.

 one thing i wish sysinst did better was handle additional/missing
 files/sets in the install image.

 everything is pretty muc hard coded.  i've always envisioned that
 having some metadata file created by the build that sysinst reads
 to find out what sets are available and then presents the user
 with info based upon this (ie, if your iso image has no source
 or X11 sets, don't offer them.)  it also allows other parties to
 easily add sets for installs and have sysinst deal.

 but i have never really thought about implementing it :)


 .mrg.

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