NetBSD Problem Report #53510

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From: wim.van.loock@telenet.be
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>Number:         53510
>Category:       install
>Synopsis:       Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    install-manager
>State:          open
>Class:          support
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Aug 11 10:55:00 +0000 2018
>Last-Modified:  Tue Sep 18 06:40:01 +0000 2018
>Originator:     Wim Van Loock
>Release:        NetBSD-8.0-amd64.ISO
>Organization:
>Environment:
>Description:
Hi,

Wanting to try NetBSD(on an AMD64 PC), I tried to install in various ways but none of them seems to work.

When I use the USB intallation version, the file is not recognized as a possible "install file". I tried 4 third-party programs to do this: Unetbootin, Etcher, Rufus and Easy USB-creatoe Lite. None of them would even start to put it on the USB. Then I downloaded the file again, maybe it was corrupt. Same result.

Then I tried burning it to a DVD with FreeISOburner, at least the burning went fine. But when I booted, only a black screen appeared and it stayed that way...

What can I do to at least install NetBsd?

Thanks in advance for any reaction.

Greetings from Belgium!!

Wim Van Loock

PS Meanwhile I am downloading the torrent file, mayb that'll work....but that's going to take about 6 hours....
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:

>Audit-Trail:
From: Pedro Pinho <pmppinho@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: install-manager@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:53:18 +0200

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 What OS are you running?
 On Linux you just need to

 gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz

 then

 sudo dd if=3DNetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=3D/dev/sdX bs=3D1M

 where X is your usb stick.

 Note that if you have an EFI system you need the UEFI install image. Also
 note that there are different images for DVD and usb.

 Good luck


 Den l=C3=B6r 11 aug. 2018 14:40 <wim.van.loock@telenet.be> skrev:

 > >Number:         53510
 > >Category:       install
 > >Synopsis:       Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 > >Confidential:   no
 > >Severity:       serious
 > >Priority:       high
 > >Responsible:    install-manager
 > >State:          open
 > >Class:          support
 > >Submitter-Id:   net
 > >Arrival-Date:   Sat Aug 11 10:55:00 +0000 2018
 > >Originator:     Wim Van Loock
 > >Release:        NetBSD-8.0-amd64.ISO
 > >Organization:
 > >Environment:
 > >Description:
 > Hi,
 >
 > Wanting to try NetBSD(on an AMD64 PC), I tried to install in various ways
 > but none of them seems to work.
 >
 > When I use the USB intallation version, the file is not recognized as a
 > possible "install file". I tried 4 third-party programs to do this:
 > Unetbootin, Etcher, Rufus and Easy USB-creatoe Lite. None of them would
 > even start to put it on the USB. Then I downloaded the file again, maybe =
 it
 > was corrupt. Same result.
 >
 > Then I tried burning it to a DVD with FreeISOburner, at least the burning
 > went fine. But when I booted, only a black screen appeared and it stayed
 > that way...
 >
 > What can I do to at least install NetBsd?
 >
 > Thanks in advance for any reaction.
 >
 > Greetings from Belgium!!
 >
 > Wim Van Loock
 >
 > PS Meanwhile I am downloading the torrent file, mayb that'll work....but
 > that's going to take about 6 hours....
 > >How-To-Repeat:
 >
 > >Fix:
 >
 >

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 <div dir=3D"auto">What OS are you running?<div dir=3D"auto">On Linux you ju=
 st need to</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">gunzip NetBSD=
 -8.0-amd64-install.img.gz</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
 ">then</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">sudo dd if=3DNetB=
 SD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=3D/dev/sdX bs=3D1M</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
 /div><div dir=3D"auto">where X is your usb stick.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
 r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Note that if you have an EFI system you need the =
 UEFI install image. Also note that there are different images for DVD and u=
 sb.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Good luck</div><div =
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
 ">Den l=C3=B6r 11 aug. 2018 14:40 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wim.van.loock@telen=
 et.be">wim.van.loock@telenet.be</a>&gt; skrev:<br></div><blockquote class=
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 ing-left:1ex">&gt;Number:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A053510<br>
 &gt;Category:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0install<br>
 &gt;Synopsis:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Can&#39;t install ISO on USB nor on=
  DVD<br>
 &gt;Confidential:=C2=A0 =C2=A0no<br>
 &gt;Severity:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0serious<br>
 &gt;Priority:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0high<br>
 &gt;Responsible:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 install-manager<br>
 &gt;State:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 open<br>
 &gt;Class:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 support<br>
 &gt;Submitter-Id:=C2=A0 =C2=A0net<br>
 &gt;Arrival-Date:=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sat Aug 11 10:55:00 +0000 2018<br>
 &gt;Originator:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wim Van Loock<br>
 &gt;Release:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 NetBSD-8.0-amd64.ISO<br>
 &gt;Organization:<br>
 &gt;Environment:<br>
 &gt;Description:<br>
 Hi,<br>
 <br>
 Wanting to try NetBSD(on an AMD64 PC), I tried to install in various ways b=
 ut none of them seems to work.<br>
 <br>
 When I use the USB intallation version, the file is not recognized as a pos=
 sible &quot;install file&quot;. I tried 4 third-party programs to do this: =
 Unetbootin, Etcher, Rufus and Easy USB-creatoe Lite. None of them would eve=
 n start to put it on the USB. Then I downloaded the file again, maybe it wa=
 s corrupt. Same result.<br>
 <br>
 Then I tried burning it to a DVD with FreeISOburner, at least the burning w=
 ent fine. But when I booted, only a black screen appeared and it stayed tha=
 t way...<br>
 <br>
 What can I do to at least install NetBsd?<br>
 <br>
 Thanks in advance for any reaction.<br>
 <br>
 Greetings from Belgium!!<br>
 <br>
 Wim Van Loock<br>
 <br>
 PS Meanwhile I am downloading the torrent file, mayb that&#39;ll work....bu=
 t that&#39;s going to take about 6 hours....<br>
 &gt;How-To-Repeat:<br>
 <br>
 &gt;Fix:<br>
 <br>
 </blockquote></div>

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From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200

 For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
 has UEFI firmware:

 https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz

 or if it uses BIOS:

 https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz


 To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
 do something like:

    gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
    dd bs=1m if=NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/.... 

 (I don't know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would likely
 be rsd0d).

 Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
 could use: https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/

 Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.

 Martin

From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 16:59:35 +0200

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 Hi,

 First of all, thanks for trying to help me out!!

 I am a step further now, I think.
 In Linux I managed to make a USB-stick which
 gives me the following menu:

 1/Install NetBSD
 2/Install - NO ACPI
 3/Install - NO ACPI, NO SMP
 4/Drop to boot prompt

 But, whatever I choose, after passing
 a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 stays black, nothing happens.

 Any suggestions?

 Greetings,

 Wim Van Loock










 Op 11/08/2018 om 15:00 schreef Martin Husemann:
 > The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.
 >
 > From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
 > To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
 > Cc:
 > Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200
 >
 >   For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
 >   has UEFI firmware:
 >   
 >   https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz
 >   
 >   or if it uses BIOS:
 >   	
 >   https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
 >   
 >   
 >   To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
 >   do something like:
 >   
 >      gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
 >      dd bs=1m if=NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/....
 >   
 >   (I don't know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would likely
 >   be rsd0d).
 >   
 >   Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
 >   could use: https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/
 >   
 >   Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.
 >   
 >   Martin
 >   
 >



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     <font face="Arial">Hi,<br>
       <br>
       First of all, thanks for trying to help me out!!<br>
       <br>
       I am a step further now, I think.<br>
       In Linux I managed to make a USB-stick which<br>
       gives me the following menu:<br>
       <br>
       1/Install NetBSD<br>
       2/Install - NO ACPI<br>
       3/Install - NO ACPI, NO SMP<br>
       4/Drop to boot prompt<br>
       <br>
       But, whatever I choose, after passing<br>
       a lot of green text on the screen, the screen<br>
       stays black, nothing happens.<br>
       <br>
       Any suggestions?<br>
       <br>
       Greetings,<br>
       <br>
       Wim Van Loock<br>
       <br>
        <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
     </font>
     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 15:00 schreef Martin
       Husemann:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type="cite"
       cite="mid:20180811130002.317CD7A1FB@mollari.NetBSD.org">
       <pre wrap="">The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.

 From: Martin Husemann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:martin@duskware.de">&lt;martin@duskware.de&gt;</a>
 To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org">gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org</a>
 Cc: 
 Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200

  For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
  has UEFI firmware:

  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz</a>

  or if it uses BIOS:

  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz</a>


  To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
  do something like:

     gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
     dd bs=1m if=NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/.... 

  (I don't know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would likely
  be rsd0d).

  Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
  could use: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/">https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/</a>

  Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.

  Martin


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From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 17:02:04 +0200

 On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 04:59:35PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 > But, whatever I choose, after passing
 > a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 > stays black, nothing happens.

 Ah, that is a graphics card issue. Which graphics card do you have?
 Some newer NVidia one?

 Martin

From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 17:04:45 +0200

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 AMD Radeon R7 Graphics

 Op 11/08/2018 om 17:02 schreef Martin Husemann:
 > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 04:59:35PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 >> But, whatever I choose, after passing
 >> a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 >> stays black, nothing happens.
 > Ah, that is a graphics card issue. Which graphics card do you have?
 > Some newer NVidia one?
 >
 > Martin
 >



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     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 17:02 schreef Martin
       Husemann:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type="cite"
       cite="mid:20180811150204.GD21763@mail.duskware.de">
       <pre wrap="">On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 04:59:35PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 </pre>
       <blockquote type="cite">
         <pre wrap="">But, whatever I choose, after passing
 a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 stays black, nothing happens.
 </pre>
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       <pre wrap="">
 Ah, that is a graphics card issue. Which graphics card do you have?
 Some newer NVidia one?

 Martin

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From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 17:05:44 +0200

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 I forgot to mention ATI first, so:

 ATI
 Model    AMD Radeon R7 Graphics

 Op 11/08/2018 om 17:02 schreef Martin Husemann:
 > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 04:59:35PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 >> But, whatever I choose, after passing
 >> a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 >> stays black, nothing happens.
 > Ah, that is a graphics card issue. Which graphics card do you have?
 > Some newer NVidia one?
 >
 > Martin
 >



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     I forgot to mention ATI first, so:<br>
     <br>
     <font face="Arial">ATI<br>
       Model    AMD Radeon R7 Graphics</font><br>
     <br>
     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 17:02 schreef Martin
       Husemann:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type="cite"
       cite="mid:20180811150204.GD21763@mail.duskware.de">
       <pre wrap="">On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 04:59:35PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 </pre>
       <blockquote type="cite">
         <pre wrap="">But, whatever I choose, after passing
 a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 stays black, nothing happens.
 </pre>
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       <pre wrap="">
 Ah, that is a graphics card issue. Which graphics card do you have?
 Some newer NVidia one?

 Martin

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From: Pedro Pinho <pmppinho@gmail.com>
To: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
Cc: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org, install-manager@netbsd.org, gnats-admin@netbsd.org, 
	netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 17:47:56 +0200

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 Do you have some hardware info?
 From Linux, what's the output of

 lspci

 Make and model of the machine?
 As much info as possible about your hardware.

 Den l=C3=B6r 11 aug. 2018 17:00Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be> skr=
 ev:

 > Hi,
 >
 > First of all, thanks for trying to help me out!!
 >
 > I am a step further now, I think.
 > In Linux I managed to make a USB-stick which
 > gives me the following menu:
 >
 > 1/Install NetBSD
 > 2/Install - NO ACPI
 > 3/Install - NO ACPI, NO SMP
 > 4/Drop to boot prompt
 >
 > But, whatever I choose, after passing
 > a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 > stays black, nothing happens.
 >
 > Any suggestions?
 >
 > Greetings,
 >
 > Wim Van Loock
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Op 11/08/2018 om 15:00 schreef Martin Husemann:
 >
 > The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GN=
 ATS.
 >
 > From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de> <martin@duskware.de>
 > To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
 > Cc:
 > Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200
 >
 >  For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
 >  has UEFI firmware:
 >
 >  https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uef=
 i-install.img.gz
 >
 >  or if it uses BIOS:
 >  =09
 >  https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-ins=
 tall.img.gz
 >
 >
 >  To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
 >  do something like:
 >
 >     gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
 >     dd bs=3D1m if=3DNetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=3D/dev/....
 >
 >  (I don't know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would likely
 >  be rsd0d).
 >
 >  Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
 >  could use: https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/
 >
 >  Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.
 >
 >  Martin
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm=
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 <div dir=3D"auto">Do you have some hardware info?<div dir=3D"auto">From Lin=
 ux, what&#39;s the output of</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
 uto">lspci</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Make and mode=
 l of the machine?</div><div dir=3D"auto">As much info as possible about you=
 r hardware.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Den =
 l=C3=B6r 11 aug. 2018 17:00Wim Van Loock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wim.van.looc=
 k@telenet.be">wim.van.loock@telenet.be</a>&gt; skrev:<br></div><blockquote =
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
 ;padding-left:1ex">
  =20
    =20
  =20
   <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
     <font face=3D"Arial">Hi,<br>
       <br>
       First of all, thanks for trying to help me out!!<br>
       <br>
       I am a step further now, I think.<br>
       In Linux I managed to make a USB-stick which<br>
       gives me the following menu:<br>
       <br>
       1/Install NetBSD<br>
       2/Install - NO ACPI<br>
       3/Install - NO ACPI, NO SMP<br>
       4/Drop to boot prompt<br>
       <br>
       But, whatever I choose, after passing<br>
       a lot of green text on the screen, the screen<br>
       stays black, nothing happens.<br>
       <br>
       Any suggestions?<br>
       <br>
       Greetings,<br>
       <br>
       Wim Van Loock<br>
       <br>
       =C2=A0<br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
       <br>
     </font>
     <div class=3D"m_1395423438525626899moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 15=
 :00 schreef Martin
       Husemann:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type=3D"cite">
       <pre>The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been no=
 ted by GNATS.

 From: Martin Husemann <a class=3D"m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-rfc2396=
 E" href=3D"mailto:martin@duskware.de" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
 &lt;martin@duskware.de&gt;</a>
 To: <a class=3D"m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mail=
 to:gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gnats-bugs@N=
 etBSD.org</a>
 Cc:=20
 Subject: Re: install/53510: Can&#39;t install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200

  For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
  has UEFI firmware:
 =20
  <a class=3D"m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://cd=
 n.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img=
 .gz" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD=
 /NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz</a>
 =20
  or if it uses BIOS:
  =09
  <a class=3D"m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://cd=
 n.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz" =
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetB=
 SD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz</a>
 =20
 =20
  To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
  do something like:
 =20
     gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
     dd bs=3D1m if=3DNetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=3D/dev/....=20
 =20
  (I don&#39;t know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would like=
 ly
  be rsd0d).
 =20
  Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
  could use: <a class=3D"m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D=
 "https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
 rrer">https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/</a>
 =20
  Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.
 =20
  Martin
 =20

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From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:12:30 +0200

 Can you try to drop to the boot prommpt, then do

   boot -c

 and when the kernel stops early do:

   > disable radeondrmkmsfb
   > quit

 and see if that gets you further?

 Martin

From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: Pedro Pinho <pmppinho@gmail.com>
Cc: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:41:05 +0200

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 I made a link with a complete detailed list of my hardware:

 http://speccy.piriform.com/results/Y5XljIWoH3Mpt0nomzb173G




 Op 11/08/2018 om 17:47 schreef Pedro Pinho:
 > Do you have some hardware info?
 > From Linux, what's the output of
 >
 > lspci
 >
 > Make and model of the machine?
 > As much info as possible about your hardware.
 >
 > Den lör 11 aug. 2018 17:00Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be 
 > <mailto:wim.van.loock@telenet.be>> skrev:
 >
 >     Hi,
 >
 >     First of all, thanks for trying to help me out!!
 >
 >     I am a step further now, I think.
 >     In Linux I managed to make a USB-stick which
 >     gives me the following menu:
 >
 >     1/Install NetBSD
 >     2/Install - NO ACPI
 >     3/Install - NO ACPI, NO SMP
 >     4/Drop to boot prompt
 >
 >     But, whatever I choose, after passing
 >     a lot of green text on the screen, the screen
 >     stays black, nothing happens.
 >
 >     Any suggestions?
 >
 >     Greetings,
 >
 >     Wim Van Loock
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >     Op 11/08/2018 om 15:00 schreef Martin Husemann:
 >>     The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.
 >>
 >>     From: Martin Husemann<martin@duskware.de> <mailto:martin@duskware.de>
 >>     To:gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org <mailto:gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org>
 >>     Cc:
 >>     Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 >>     Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200
 >>
 >>       For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
 >>       has UEFI firmware:
 >>       
 >>       https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz
 >>       
 >>       or if it uses BIOS:
 >>       	
 >>       https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
 >>       
 >>       
 >>       To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
 >>       do something like:
 >>       
 >>          gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
 >>          dd bs=1m if=NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/....
 >>       
 >>       (I don't know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would likely
 >>       be rsd0d).
 >>       
 >>       Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
 >>       could use:https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/
 >>     <https://www.netbsd.org/%7Emartin/rawrite32/>
 >>       
 >>       Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.
 >>       
 >>       Martin
 >>       
 >>
 >
 >
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     <font face="Arial">I made a link with a complete detailed list of my
       hardware:<br>
       <br>
       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://speccy.piriform.com/results/Y5XljIWoH3Mpt0nomzb173G">http://speccy.piriform.com/results/Y5XljIWoH3Mpt0nomzb173G</a><br>
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     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 17:47 schreef Pedro
       Pinho:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid:CAC7eBt5qU92wQ-0Gkdw2_G2+x=gytwsJnCjihgqUk74gWnf-8w@mail.gmail.com">
       <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
       <div dir="auto">Do you have some hardware info?
         <div dir="auto">From Linux, what's the output of</div>
         <div dir="auto"><br>
         </div>
         <div dir="auto">lspci</div>
         <div dir="auto"><br>
         </div>
         <div dir="auto">Make and model of the machine?</div>
         <div dir="auto">As much info as possible about your hardware.</div>
       </div>
       <br>
       <div class="gmail_quote">
         <div dir="ltr">Den lör 11 aug. 2018 17:00Wim Van Loock &lt;<a
             href="mailto:wim.van.loock@telenet.be"
             moz-do-not-send="true">wim.van.loock@telenet.be</a>&gt;
           skrev:<br>
         </div>
         <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
           .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
           <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <font face="Arial">Hi,<br>
               <br>
               First of all, thanks for trying to help me out!!<br>
               <br>
               I am a step further now, I think.<br>
               In Linux I managed to make a USB-stick which<br>
               gives me the following menu:<br>
               <br>
               1/Install NetBSD<br>
               2/Install - NO ACPI<br>
               3/Install - NO ACPI, NO SMP<br>
               4/Drop to boot prompt<br>
               <br>
               But, whatever I choose, after passing<br>
               a lot of green text on the screen, the screen<br>
               stays black, nothing happens.<br>
               <br>
               Any suggestions?<br>
               <br>
               Greetings,<br>
               <br>
               Wim Van Loock<br>
               <br>
                <br>
               <br>
               <br>
               <br>
               <br>
               <br>
               <br>
               <br>
               <br>
             </font>
             <div class="m_1395423438525626899moz-cite-prefix">Op
               11/08/2018 om 15:00 schreef Martin Husemann:<br>
             </div>
             <blockquote type="cite">
               <pre>The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.

 From: Martin Husemann <a class="m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:martin@duskware.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;martin@duskware.de&gt;</a>
 To: <a class="m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org</a>
 Cc: 
 Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:59:22 +0200

  For amd64 the easiest way to try is the USB image, if your machine
  has UEFI firmware:

  <a class="m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz</a>

  or if it uses BIOS:

  <a class="m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0/images/NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz</a>


  To put it onto install media, you would on a NetBSD or linux machine
  do something like:

     gunzip NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img.gz
     dd bs=1m if=NetBSD-8.0-amd64-install.img of=/dev/.... 

  (I don't know the proper device name on linux, on NetBSD it would likely
  be rsd0d).

  Or if you want to download/prepare the USB stick on Windows, you
  could use: <a class="m_1395423438525626899moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.netbsd.org/%7Emartin/rawrite32/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/</a>

  Maybe the DVD you burned is bad? The ISO image works for me.

  Martin


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From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:48:55 +0200

 I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.


 On 11-08-18 18:15, Martin Husemann wrote:
 > The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.
 >
 > From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
 > To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
 > Cc:
 > Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:12:30 +0200
 >
 >   Can you try to drop to the boot prommpt, then do
 >   
 >     boot -c
 >   
 >   and when the kernel stops early do:
 >   
 >     > disable radeondrmkmsfb
 >     > quit
 >   
 >   and see if that gets you further?
 >   
 >   Martin
 >   

From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:52:18 +0200

 On 11-08-18 17:50, Pedro Pinho wrote:
 >   
 >   Do you have some hardware info?
 >   From Linux, what's the output of
 >   
 >   lspci
 >   
 >
 This is the output from the Linux terminal:

 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Root Complex
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 
 [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] (rev d6)
 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri 
 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Root Port
 00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Root Port
 00:03.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Root Port
 00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Root Port
 00:10.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB XHCI 
 Controller (rev 09)
 00:10.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB XHCI 
 Controller (rev 09)
 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA 
 Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)
 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI 
 Controller (rev 11)
 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI 
 Controller (rev 11)
 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI 
 Controller (rev 11)
 00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB EHCI 
 Controller (rev 11)
 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller 
 (rev 16)
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 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia 
 Controller (rev 01)
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 (rev 11)
 00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH PCI Bridge 
 (rev 40)
 00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH USB OHCI 
 Controller (rev 11)
 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Function 0
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 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Function 1
 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
 (Models 30h-3fh) Processor Function 2
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 RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 11)

From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
	gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:52:53 +0200

 On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 > I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.

 You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
 (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
 boot -c ... commands I suggested.

 This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
 (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
 prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
 the original failure and see how to fix that.

 Martin

From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:46:50 +0200

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 "Drop to boot prompt" is choice 4 after

 1/Install
 2/Install  no ACPI
 3/ Install no ACPI, no SMP

 Whatever I choose, I always get a black screen, no cursor or anything else

 Op 11/08/2018 om 18:52 schreef Martin Husemann:
 > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 >> I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.
 > You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
 > (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
 > boot -c ... commands I suggested.
 >
 > This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
 > (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
 > prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
 > the original failure and see how to fix that.
 >
 > Martin
 >
 >



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       <br>
       1/Install<br>
       2/Install  no ACPI<br>
       3/ Install no ACPI, no SMP<br>
       <br>
       Whatever I choose, I always get a black screen, no cursor or
       anything else<br>
     </font><br>
     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 18:52 schreef Martin
       Husemann:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type="cite"
       cite="mid:20180811165252.GA7932@mail.duskware.de">
       <pre wrap="">On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 </pre>
       <blockquote type="cite">
         <pre wrap="">I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.
 </pre>
       </blockquote>
       <pre wrap="">
 You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
 (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
 boot -c ... commands I suggested.

 This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
 (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
 prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
 the original failure and see how to fix that.

 Martin


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From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 20:02:52 +0200

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 Now I suddenly got to the boot prompt and entered "boot -c"

 then I got:

 ***********************************************************************

 Copyrights---several years
 NETBSD 8.0 Generic

 TOT Mem = 7122 MB
 AVAIL Mem = 6892 MB

 Running CGD selftest AES-XTS-256  AES-XTS-512 Done
 Userconf: configure system
 autoconfiguration:
 uc>

 ****************************************************************************
 After the >uc, it wasn't possible to type anything


 Op 11/08/2018 om 19:50 schreef Wim Van Loock:
 > The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.
 >
 > From: Wim Van Loock <wim.van.loock@telenet.be>
 > To: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
 > Cc: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org, install-manager@netbsd.org,
 >   gnats-admin@netbsd.org, netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org
 > Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:46:50 +0200
 >
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 >   "Drop to boot prompt" is choice 4 after
 >   
 >   1/Install
 >   2/Install  no ACPI
 >   3/ Install no ACPI, no SMP
 >   
 >   Whatever I choose, I always get a black screen, no cursor or anything else
 >   
 >   Op 11/08/2018 om 18:52 schreef Martin Husemann:
 >   > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 >   >> I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.
 >   > You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
 >   > (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
 >   > boot -c ... commands I suggested.
 >   >
 >   > This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
 >   > (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
 >   > prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
 >   > the original failure and see how to fix that.
 >   >
 >   > Martin
 >   >
 >   >
 >   
 >   
 >   
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 >     </head>
 >     <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
 >       <font face="Arial">"Drop to boot prompt" is choice 4 after<br>
 >         <br>
 >         1/Install<br>
 >         2/Install  no ACPI<br>
 >         3/ Install no ACPI, no SMP<br>
 >         <br>
 >         Whatever I choose, I always get a black screen, no cursor or
 >         anything else<br>
 >       </font><br>
 >       <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 18:52 schreef Martin
 >         Husemann:<br>
 >       </div>
 >       <blockquote type="cite"
 >         cite="mid:20180811165252.GA7932@mail.duskware.de">
 >         <pre wrap="">On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
 >   </pre>
 >         <blockquote type="cite">
 >           <pre wrap="">I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.
 >   </pre>
 >         </blockquote>
 >         <pre wrap="">
 >   You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
 >   (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
 >   boot -c ... commands I suggested.
 >   
 >   This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
 >   (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
 >   prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
 >   the original failure and see how to fix that.
 >   
 >   Martin
 >   
 >   
 >   </pre>
 >       </blockquote>
 >       <br>
 >     <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
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     <font face="Arial">Now I suddenly got to the boot prompt and entered
       "boot -c"<br>
       <br>
       then I got:<br>
       <br>
 ***********************************************************************<br>
       <br>
       Copyrights---several years<br>
       NETBSD 8.0 Generic<br>
       <br>
       TOT Mem = 7122 MB<br>
       AVAIL Mem = 6892 MB<br>
       <br>
       Running CGD selftest AES-XTS-256  AES-XTS-512 Done<br>
       Userconf: configure system<br>
       autoconfiguration:<br>
       uc&gt;<br>
       <br>
 ****************************************************************************<br>
       After the &gt;uc, it wasn't possible to type anything<br>
       <br>
     </font><br>
     <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11/08/2018 om 19:50 schreef Wim Van
       Loock:<br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type="cite"
       cite="mid:20180811175001.B304F7A1D7@mollari.NetBSD.org">
       <pre wrap="">The following reply was made to PR install/53510; it has been noted by GNATS.

 From: Wim Van Loock <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wim.van.loock@telenet.be">&lt;wim.van.loock@telenet.be&gt;</a>
 To: Martin Husemann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:martin@duskware.de">&lt;martin@duskware.de&gt;</a>
 Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org">gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:install-manager@netbsd.org">install-manager@netbsd.org</a>,
  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnats-admin@netbsd.org">gnats-admin@netbsd.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org">netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org</a>
 Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018 19:46:50 +0200

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  "Drop to boot prompt" is choice 4 after

  1/Install
  2/Install  no ACPI
  3/ Install no ACPI, no SMP

  Whatever I choose, I always get a black screen, no cursor or anything else

  Op 11/08/2018 om 18:52 schreef Martin Husemann:
  &gt; On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 06:48:55PM +0200, Wim Van Loock wrote:
  &gt;&gt; I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.
  &gt; You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
  &gt; (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
  &gt; boot -c ... commands I suggested.
  &gt;
  &gt; This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
  &gt; (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
  &gt; prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
  &gt; the original failure and see how to fix that.
  &gt;
  &gt; Martin
  &gt;
  &gt;



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        &lt;br&gt;
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        2/Install  no ACPI&lt;br&gt;
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      &lt;blockquote type="cite"
        cite=<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mid:20180811165252.GA7932@mail.duskware.de">"mid:20180811165252.GA7932@mail.duskware.de"</a>&gt;
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  &lt;/pre&gt;
        &lt;blockquote type="cite"&gt;
          &lt;pre wrap=""&gt;I never see a boot prompt, the screen stays completely black.
  &lt;/pre&gt;
        &lt;/blockquote&gt;
        &lt;pre wrap=""&gt;
  You said you see the ACPI / no ACPI bootloader menu. It has an option
  (5?) to drop to the boot prompt. Please use that and then try the
  boot -c ... commands I suggested.

  This should disable the drm/kms framebuffer for your video card
  (just for debugging purposes) and should allow you to get to a login
  prompt. If that works, we can try to get proper error messages from
  the original failure and see how to fix that.

  Martin


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From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/53510: Can't install ISO on USB nor on DVD
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 08:39:49 +0200

 One more idea:

 could you try to drop to the boot prompt and then do something like:

 > userconf disable radeondrmkmsfb
 > boot


 This avoids the keyboard interaction later at the userconf prompt but
 still should disable the drmkms driver for your graphics card.

 Martin

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