NetBSD Problem Report #60883

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 16:02:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: abkothman@gmail.com
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To: gnats-bugs@NetBSD.org
Subject: Device debug messages make install impossible
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>Number:         60883
>Category:       kern
>Synopsis:       Device debug messages make install impossible
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    nat
>State:          analyzed
>Class:          sw-bug
>Submitter-Id:   net
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Oct 15 16:05:01 +0000 2026
>Closed-Date:    
>Last-Modified:  Fri Oct 16 03:37:01 +0000 2026
>Originator:     Morgan Kothman
>Release:        11
>Organization:
n/a
>Environment:
n/a
>Description:
I am attempting to install the current stable version of NetBSD onto my Acer Aspire V. I was able to dd the unzipped USB img onto a flash drive, and successfully booted the installer from my laptop.

As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, which pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have time to read options before the text is covered up, although I can still select options rather blindly.

Is there any way I can work around this? I tried `boot -q` to no avail.
>How-To-Repeat:
See description
>Fix:
Unknown

>Release-Note:

>Audit-Trail:
From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 18:28:14 +0200

 On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:05:01PM +0000, abkothman@gmail.com via gnats wrote:
 > As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or
 > waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, which
 > pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have time to read
 > options before the text is covered up, although I can still select
 > options rather blindly.

 Is it a constant stream of messages or just one time things (like: your
 batterie state is now fully charged)?

 You can use Ctrl-L to make the installer redraw the screen.

 This also might have been fixed already, try a "daily" snapshot from the
 latest netbsd-11 verision from:

 	https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-11/latest/

 It might also be helfull if you give us an idea what kind of messages
 you get, can you give an example (like the last two or three lines you see)?

 Martin

From: Morgan <abkothman@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 12:42:38 -0400

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 Hi Martin,

 Thank you for your response!

 Here is a screenshot of the messages. They are unfortunately consistently
 displaying repeatedly. The error messages are specifically about things
 like the mouse, touchsreen, and other hardware devices. I think it's worth
 noting, this laptop has had hardware issues, like the Wi-Fi card not
 working, and not turning on at all. Happy to take a video if more helpful.

 https://photos.app.goo.gl/99ZFWe7ha6SPukqa6

 ```
 [122.9710768] uts0: detached
 [122.9710768] uhidev0: detached
 [122.9718768] uhidev0: at uhub1 port 6 (addr 20) disconnected
 [123.5310753] uhidev0 at uhub1 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0
 [123.5318753] uhidev0: ELAN (0x04f3) Touchscreen (0x0125), rev 2.00/0.21,
 addr 21, iclass 3/0
 ```

 I did not know about ctrl-L to redraw the screen! I will give that a go,
 with the latest "daily" snapshot, and report back.

 Thanks again!
 Morgan


 On Thu, Oct 15, 2026, 12:30=E2=80=AFPM Martin Husemann via gnats <
 gnats-admin@netbsd.org> wrote:

 > The following reply was made to PR install/60883; it has been noted by
 > GNATS.
 >
 > From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
 > To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
 > Cc:
 > Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 18:28:14 +0200
 >
 >  On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:05:01PM +0000, abkothman@gmail.com via gnats
 > wrote:
 >  > As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or
 >  > waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, which
 >  > pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have time to read
 >  > options before the text is covered up, although I can still select
 >  > options rather blindly.
 >
 >  Is it a constant stream of messages or just one time things (like: your
 >  batterie state is now fully charged)?
 >
 >  You can use Ctrl-L to make the installer redraw the screen.
 >
 >  This also might have been fixed already, try a "daily" snapshot from the
 >  latest netbsd-11 verision from:
 >
 >         https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-11/latest/
 >
 >  It might also be helfull if you give us an idea what kind of messages
 >  you get, can you give an example (like the last two or three lines you
 > see)?
 >
 >  Martin
 >
 >

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 <div dir=3D"auto">Hi Martin,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">T=
 hank you for your response!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
 to">Here is a screenshot of the messages. They are unfortunately consistent=
 ly displaying repeatedly. The error messages are specifically about things =
 like the mouse, touchsreen, and other hardware devices. I think it&#39;s wo=
 rth noting, this laptop has had hardware issues, like the Wi-Fi card not wo=
 rking, and not turning on at all. Happy to take a video if more helpful.</d=
 iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://photos.=
 app.goo.gl/99ZFWe7ha6SPukqa6">https://photos.app.goo.gl/99ZFWe7ha6SPukqa6</=
 a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">```</div><div dir=3D"=
 auto">[122.9710768] uts0: detached</div><div dir=3D"auto">[122.9710768] uhi=
 dev0: detached</div><div dir=3D"auto">[122.9718768] uhidev0: at uhub1 port =
 6 (addr 20) disconnected</div><div dir=3D"auto">[123.5310753] uhidev0 at uh=
 ub1 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0</div><div dir=3D"auto">[123.5318753]=
  uhidev0: ELAN (0x04f3) Touchscreen (0x0125), rev 2.00/0.21, addr 21, iclas=
 s 3/0</div><div dir=3D"auto">```</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
 =3D"auto">I did not know about ctrl-L to redraw the screen! I will give tha=
 t a go, with the latest &quot;daily&quot; snapshot, and report back.</div><=
 div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks again!</div><div dir=3D=
 "auto">Morgan</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"=
  dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2026, 1=
 2:30=E2=80=AFPM Martin Husemann via gnats &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gnats-admin=
 @netbsd.org">gnats-admin@netbsd.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
 ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following reply was made to PR insta=
 ll/60883; it has been noted by GNATS.<br>
 <br>
 From: Martin Husemann &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martin@duskware.de" target=3D"_=
 blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">martin@duskware.de</a>&gt;<br>
 To: <a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs@netbsd.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
 errer">gnats-bugs@netbsd.org</a><br>
 Cc: <br>
 Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible<b=
 r>
 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 18:28:14 +0200<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:05:01PM +0000, <a href=3D"mailto:abkothman=
 @gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">abkothman@gmail.com</a> vi=
 a gnats wrote:<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or<br=
 >
 =C2=A0&gt; waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, =
 which<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don&#39;t have ti=
 me to read<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; options before the text is covered up, although I can still sele=
 ct<br>
 =C2=A0&gt; options rather blindly.<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0Is it a constant stream of messages or just one time things (like: yo=
 ur<br>
 =C2=A0batterie state is now fully charged)?<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0You can use Ctrl-L to make the installer redraw the screen.<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0This also might have been fixed already, try a &quot;daily&quot; snap=
 shot from the<br>
 =C2=A0latest netbsd-11 verision from:<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-=
 daily/netbsd-11/latest/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
 tps://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-11/latest/</a><br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0It might also be helfull if you give us an idea what kind of messages=
 <br>
 =C2=A0you get, can you give an example (like the last two or three lines yo=
 u see)?<br>
 <br>
 =C2=A0Martin<br>
 <br>
 </blockquote></div></div>

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From: Morgan <abkothman@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 13:04:44 -0400

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 I created a live USB from an img using the link you provided, and still get
 continuous log messages like "uhid4: detached". However, I can proceed
 through the installation by mashing ctrl-L.

 Thanks!

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 <div dir=3D"auto">I created a live USB from an img using the link you provi=
 ded, and still get continuous log messages like &quot;uhid4: detached&quot;=
 . However, I can proceed through the installation by mashing ctrl-L.<div di=
 r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks!</div></div>

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Responsible-Changed-From-To: install-manager->nat
Responsible-Changed-By: nat@NetBSD.org
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 03:33:57 +0000
Responsible-Changed-Why:
I'm looking into this PR.


State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed
State-Changed-By: nat@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 03:37:01 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Problem is understood.  Driver bug category changed from install to kern.


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