NetBSD Problem Report #60883
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From: abkothman@gmail.com
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Subject: Device debug messages make install impossible
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>Number: 60883
>Category: kern
>Synopsis: Device debug messages make install impossible
>Confidential: no
>Severity: serious
>Priority: medium
>Responsible: nat
>State: needs-pullups
>Class: sw-bug
>Submitter-Id: net
>Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 15 16:05:01 +0000 2026
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified: Thu Nov 05 01:53:08 +0000 2026
>Originator: Morgan Kothman
>Release: 11
>Organization:
n/a
>Environment:
n/a
>Description:
I am attempting to install the current stable version of NetBSD onto my Acer Aspire V. I was able to dd the unzipped USB img onto a flash drive, and successfully booted the installer from my laptop.
As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, which pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have time to read options before the text is covered up, although I can still select options rather blindly.
Is there any way I can work around this? I tried `boot -q` to no avail.
>How-To-Repeat:
See description
>Fix:
Unknown
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 18:28:14 +0200
On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:05:01PM +0000, abkothman@gmail.com via gnats wrote:
> As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or
> waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, which
> pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have time to read
> options before the text is covered up, although I can still select
> options rather blindly.
Is it a constant stream of messages or just one time things (like: your
batterie state is now fully charged)?
You can use Ctrl-L to make the installer redraw the screen.
This also might have been fixed already, try a "daily" snapshot from the
latest netbsd-11 verision from:
https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-11/latest/
It might also be helfull if you give us an idea what kind of messages
you get, can you give an example (like the last two or three lines you see)?
Martin
From: Morgan <abkothman@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 12:42:38 -0400
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Hi Martin,
Thank you for your response!
Here is a screenshot of the messages. They are unfortunately consistently
displaying repeatedly. The error messages are specifically about things
like the mouse, touchsreen, and other hardware devices. I think it's worth
noting, this laptop has had hardware issues, like the Wi-Fi card not
working, and not turning on at all. Happy to take a video if more helpful.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/99ZFWe7ha6SPukqa6
```
[122.9710768] uts0: detached
[122.9710768] uhidev0: detached
[122.9718768] uhidev0: at uhub1 port 6 (addr 20) disconnected
[123.5310753] uhidev0 at uhub1 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0
[123.5318753] uhidev0: ELAN (0x04f3) Touchscreen (0x0125), rev 2.00/0.21,
addr 21, iclass 3/0
```
I did not know about ctrl-L to redraw the screen! I will give that a go,
with the latest "daily" snapshot, and report back.
Thanks again!
Morgan
On Thu, Oct 15, 2026, 12:30=E2=80=AFPM Martin Husemann via gnats <
gnats-admin@netbsd.org> wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR install/60883; it has been noted by
> GNATS.
>
> From: Martin Husemann <martin@duskware.de>
> To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 18:28:14 +0200
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:05:01PM +0000, abkothman@gmail.com via gnats
> wrote:
> > As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or
> > waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, which
> > pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have time to read
> > options before the text is covered up, although I can still select
> > options rather blindly.
>
> Is it a constant stream of messages or just one time things (like: your
> batterie state is now fully charged)?
>
> You can use Ctrl-L to make the installer redraw the screen.
>
> This also might have been fixed already, try a "daily" snapshot from the
> latest netbsd-11 verision from:
>
> https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-11/latest/
>
> It might also be helfull if you give us an idea what kind of messages
> you get, can you give an example (like the last two or three lines you
> see)?
>
> Martin
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Martin,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">T=
hank you for your response!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">Here is a screenshot of the messages. They are unfortunately consistent=
ly displaying repeatedly. The error messages are specifically about things =
like the mouse, touchsreen, and other hardware devices. I think it's wo=
rth noting, this laptop has had hardware issues, like the Wi-Fi card not wo=
rking, and not turning on at all. Happy to take a video if more helpful.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://photos.=
app.goo.gl/99ZFWe7ha6SPukqa6">https://photos.app.goo.gl/99ZFWe7ha6SPukqa6</=
a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">```</div><div dir=3D"=
auto">[122.9710768] uts0: detached</div><div dir=3D"auto">[122.9710768] uhi=
dev0: detached</div><div dir=3D"auto">[122.9718768] uhidev0: at uhub1 port =
6 (addr 20) disconnected</div><div dir=3D"auto">[123.5310753] uhidev0 at uh=
ub1 port 6 configuration 1 interface 0</div><div dir=3D"auto">[123.5318753]=
uhidev0: ELAN (0x04f3) Touchscreen (0x0125), rev 2.00/0.21, addr 21, iclas=
s 3/0</div><div dir=3D"auto">```</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">I did not know about ctrl-L to redraw the screen! I will give tha=
t a go, with the latest "daily" snapshot, and report back.</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks again!</div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Morgan</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"=
dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 15, 2026, 1=
2:30=E2=80=AFPM Martin Husemann via gnats <<a href=3D"mailto:gnats-admin=
@netbsd.org">gnats-admin@netbsd.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following reply was made to PR insta=
ll/60883; it has been noted by GNATS.<br>
<br>
From: Martin Husemann <<a href=3D"mailto:martin@duskware.de" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">martin@duskware.de</a>><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:gnats-bugs@netbsd.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">gnats-bugs@netbsd.org</a><br>
Cc: <br>
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible<b=
r>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 18:28:14 +0200<br>
<br>
=C2=A0On Thu, Oct 15, 2026 at 04:05:01PM +0000, <a href=3D"mailto:abkothman=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">abkothman@gmail.com</a> vi=
a gnats wrote:<br>
=C2=A0> As soon as I proceed past the bootloader (after pressing 1 or<br=
>
=C2=A0> waiting), I start getting a host of log messages about devices, =
which<br>
=C2=A0> pushes the text of the installer off screen. I don't have ti=
me to read<br>
=C2=A0> options before the text is covered up, although I can still sele=
ct<br>
=C2=A0> options rather blindly.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Is it a constant stream of messages or just one time things (like: yo=
ur<br>
=C2=A0batterie state is now fully charged)?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0You can use Ctrl-L to make the installer redraw the screen.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0This also might have been fixed already, try a "daily" snap=
shot from the<br>
=C2=A0latest netbsd-11 verision from:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-=
daily/netbsd-11/latest/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-11/latest/</a><br>
<br>
=C2=A0It might also be helfull if you give us an idea what kind of messages=
<br>
=C2=A0you get, can you give an example (like the last two or three lines yo=
u see)?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Martin<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div>
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From: Morgan <abkothman@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2026 13:04:44 -0400
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I created a live USB from an img using the link you provided, and still get
continuous log messages like "uhid4: detached". However, I can proceed
through the installation by mashing ctrl-L.
Thanks!
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<div dir=3D"auto">I created a live USB from an img using the link you provi=
ded, and still get continuous log messages like "uhid4: detached"=
. However, I can proceed through the installation by mashing ctrl-L.<div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks!</div></div>
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Responsible-Changed-From-To: install-manager->nat
Responsible-Changed-By: nat@NetBSD.org
Responsible-Changed-When: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 03:33:57 +0000
Responsible-Changed-Why:
I'm looking into this PR.
State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed
State-Changed-By: nat@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 03:37:01 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
Problem is understood. Driver bug category changed from install to kern.
From: Nat Sloss <nathanialsloss@yahoo.com.au>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 14:08:36 +1100
Forwarded to gnats-admin as it was not appened to the PR.
Hi,
Some time ago about 15 or so years I had laptop with ELAN touchscreen.
I found that I was necessary to open the uts(4) device and keep it open.
Back then there was no usb quirk that I could add easily - thankfully now
there is the usb quirk UQ_ALWAYS_ON which I believe will stop the console from
being spammed by messages.
I need the dmesg of the system to get the ELAN vendor and product so I can add
a quirk addition for you to try. Or you can try adding UQ_ALWAYS_ON in
usb_quirks.c with the product and vendor ids and see if the messages go away.
One thing that is possible if you dont intend to use the touchscreen and just
want the messages gone is to boot with "userconf disable uts; boot netbsd"
Best regards and I hope this helps,
Nat
From: Nat Sloss <nathanialsloss@yahoo.com.au>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Fwd: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 14:09:24 +1100
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Forwarded to gnats-bugs as it was not appended to the PR.
HI,
Apply the following and rebuild your kernel.
Should it work when its added a formalized name will be added to usbdevs
instead of the 0x0125 identifier.
Best regards and I hope this helps,
Nat
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diff -r 92a8485b9ed3 sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c
--- a/sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c Sun Oct 04 18:35:03 2026 +0000
+++ b/sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c Fri Oct 16 10:16:05 2026 +1100
@@ -397,6 +397,8 @@
*/
{ USB_VENDOR_CHICONY, USB_PRODUCT_CHICONY_OPTMOUSE0939, ANY,
{ UQ_ALWAYS_ON, NULL }},
+ { USB_VENDOR_ELAN, 0x0125, ANY,
+ { UQ_ALWAYS_ON, NULL }},
{ USB_VENDOR_PIXART, USB_PRODUCT_PIXART_RPIMOUSE, ANY,
{ UQ_ALWAYS_ON, NULL }},
{ USB_VENDOR_LOGITECH, USB_PRODUCT_LOGITECH_B100_1, ANY,
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From: Nat Sloss <nathanialsloss@yahoo.com.au>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2026 14:10:26 +1100
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Forwarded to gnats-bugs as it was not appended to the PR.
Hi,
Heres a compete patch (I just realized that the quirk was only used with
ums(4)):
Don't forget to run make -f Makefile.usbdevs in the sys/dev/usb directory first.
Best regards,
Nat
PS: Disabling uts at boot probably wont work and instead flood the console with
....not configured messages.
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diff -r 92a8485b9ed3 sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c
--- a/sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c Sun Oct 04 18:35:03 2026 +0000
+++ b/sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c Fri Oct 16 14:27:50 2026 +1100
@@ -397,6 +397,8 @@ Static const struct usbd_quirk_entry {
*/
{ USB_VENDOR_CHICONY, USB_PRODUCT_CHICONY_OPTMOUSE0939, ANY,
{ UQ_ALWAYS_ON, NULL }},
+ { USB_VENDOR_ELAN, USB_PRODUCT_ELAN_TPANEL, ANY,
+ { UQ_ALWAYS_ON, NULL }},
{ USB_VENDOR_PIXART, USB_PRODUCT_PIXART_RPIMOUSE, ANY,
{ UQ_ALWAYS_ON, NULL }},
{ USB_VENDOR_LOGITECH, USB_PRODUCT_LOGITECH_B100_1, ANY,
diff -r 92a8485b9ed3 sys/dev/usb/usbdevs
--- a/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs Sun Oct 04 18:35:03 2026 +0000
+++ b/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs Fri Oct 16 14:27:50 2026 +1100
@@ -1558,6 +1558,7 @@ product EIZO MONITOR 0x0001 monitor
/* ELAN Products */
product ELAN ACTIVEJET 0x0103 ActiveJet K-2024 Multimedia Keyboard
+product ELAN TPANEL 0x0125 Elan Touchscreen controller
/* ELCON Systemtechnik products */
product ELCON PLAN 0x0002 Goldpfeil P-LAN
diff -r 92a8485b9ed3 sys/dev/usb/uts.c
--- a/sys/dev/usb/uts.c Sun Oct 04 18:35:03 2026 +0000
+++ b/sys/dev/usb/uts.c Fri Oct 16 14:27:50 2026 +1100
@@ -74,10 +74,13 @@ int utsdebug = 0;
struct uts_softc {
device_t sc_dev;
struct uhidev *sc_hdev;
+ struct usbd_device *sc_udev;
struct hid_location sc_loc_x, sc_loc_y, sc_loc_z;
struct hid_location sc_loc_btn;
+ bool sc_alwayson;
+
int sc_enabled;
int flags; /* device configuration */
@@ -139,16 +142,22 @@ uts_attach(device_t parent, device_t sel
struct uts_softc *sc = device_private(self);
struct uhidev_attach_arg *uha = aux;
struct wsmousedev_attach_args a;
- int size;
+ int error, size;
void *desc;
uint32_t flags;
struct hid_data * d;
struct hid_item item;
+ uint32_t quirks;
aprint_normal("\n");
sc->sc_dev = self;
sc->sc_hdev = uha->parent;
+ sc->sc_udev = uha->uiaa->uiaa_device;
+
+ quirks = usbd_get_quirks(sc->sc_udev)->uq_flags;
+ if (quirks & UQ_ALWAYS_ON)
+ sc->sc_alwayson = true;
uhidev_get_report_desc(uha->parent, &desc, &size);
@@ -263,6 +272,14 @@ uts_attach(device_t parent, device_t sel
tpcalib_ioctl(&sc->sc_tpcalib, WSMOUSEIO_SCALIBCOORDS,
(void *)&sc->sc_calibcoords, 0, 0);
+ if (sc->sc_alwayson) {
+ error = uhidev_open(sc->sc_hdev, &uts_intr, sc);
+ if (error != 0) {
+ aprint_error_dev(self,
+ "WARNING: couldn't open always-on device\n");
+ sc->sc_alwayson = false;
+ }
+ }
return;
}
@@ -272,9 +289,11 @@ uts_detach(device_t self, int flags)
struct uts_softc *sc = device_private(self);
int error;
- __USE(sc);
DPRINTF(("uts_detach: sc=%p flags=%d\n", sc, flags));
+ if (sc->sc_alwayson)
+ uhidev_close(sc->sc_hdev);
+
error = config_detach_children(self, flags);
if (error)
return error;
@@ -320,7 +339,12 @@ uts_enable(void *v)
if (sc->sc_enabled)
return EBUSY;
- error = uhidev_open(sc->sc_hdev, &uts_intr, sc);
+ error = 0;
+ if (!sc->sc_alwayson) {
+ error = uhidev_open(sc->sc_hdev, &uts_intr, sc);
+ if (error)
+ sc->sc_enabled = 0;
+ }
if (error != 0)
return error;
@@ -342,7 +366,8 @@ uts_disable(void *v)
return;
sc->sc_enabled = 0;
- uhidev_close(sc->sc_hdev);
+ if (!sc->sc_alwayson)
+ uhidev_close(sc->sc_hdev);
}
Static int
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From: Morgan Kothman <abkothman@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2026 10:55:02 -0500
My apologies for the delay.
I'm not sure if this would still be helpful, but here is the output of dmesg I was able to dd onto a flash drive.
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kothman/ccda3de4d4f3d1e72fe08f9cd86d7034/raw/8dacc05da00fb4f6476503470e378d57fdd12dd9/dmesg-output.log
And I believe this is the line with the vendor ID being referenced.
uhidev0: ELAN (0x04f3) Touchscreen (0x0125), rev 2.00/0.21, addr 9, iclass 3/0
For what it's worth, `userconf uts disable; boot netbsd` had no effect one way or another (did not boot at all, running separately only booted netbsd), and I would see console messages even when plugging in or removing a usb drive.
All the best,
Morgan Kothman
From: Nathanial Sloss <nathanialsloss@yahoo.com.au>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc: gnats-admin@netbsd.org,
netbsd-bugs@netbsd.org,
abkothman@gmail.com
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2026 01:23:56 +1100
Hi Morgan,
On Tue, 3 Nov 2026 03:00:02 Morgan Kothman via gnats wrote:
> And I believe this is the line with the vendor ID being referenced.
> uhidev0: ELAN (0x04f3) Touchscreen (0x0125), rev 2.00/0.21, addr 9,
> iclass 3/0
Noted. It's in the second longer patch posted to the mailing list.
>
> For what it's worth, `userconf uts disable; boot netbsd` had no effect one
> way or another (did not boot at all, running separately only booted
> netbsd), and I would see console messages even when plugging in or
> removing a usb drive.
Console messages when removing or plugging in a usb drive is expected. When
devices are attached or detached it prints to the console.
The issue is the continous spammig of the touchscreen.
I posted a second patch (which hopefully you have) to the mailing-list (the
longer one with changes to uts.c). If this stops the touchscreen spamming the
console I'll commit it soon.
Best regards and thanks for testing this,
Nat
From: Morgan Kothman <abkothman@gmail.com>
To: gnats-bugs@netbsd.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: install/60883: Device debug messages make install impossible
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2026 14:17:35 -0500
Hi Nat,
Thank you for the info, and your work on the patch.
I am pleased to say I was able to get NetBSD compiled for the first
time, and confirmed that I am no longer getting spammed by messages
during the installation process.
All the best,
Morgan
From: "Nathanial Sloss" <nat@netbsd.org>
To: gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org
Cc:
Subject: PR/60883 CVS commit: src/sys/dev/usb
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 01:13:21 +0000
Module Name: src
Committed By: nat
Date: Thu Nov 5 01:13:21 UTC 2026
Modified Files:
src/sys/dev/usb: usbdevs
Log Message:
Add product id for ELAN touchscreen controller.
Part of PR/60883.
To generate a diff of this commit:
cvs rdiff -u -r1.828 -r1.829 src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs
Please note that diffs are not public domain; they are subject to the
copyright notices on the relevant files.
From: "Nathanial Sloss" <nat@netbsd.org>
To: gnats-bugs@gnats.NetBSD.org
Cc:
Subject: PR/60883 CVS commit: src/sys/dev/usb
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 01:17:55 +0000
Module Name: src
Committed By: nat
Date: Thu Nov 5 01:17:55 UTC 2026
Modified Files:
src/sys/dev/usb: usb_quirks.c uts.c
Log Message:
Add support for ALWAYSON quirk to uts(4).
Add quirk for ELAN touchscreens.
Addresses PR/60883.
To generate a diff of this commit:
cvs rdiff -u -r1.108 -r1.109 src/sys/dev/usb/usb_quirks.c
cvs rdiff -u -r1.18 -r1.19 src/sys/dev/usb/uts.c
Please note that diffs are not public domain; they are subject to the
copyright notices on the relevant files.
State-Changed-From-To: analyzed->needs-pullups
State-Changed-By: nat@NetBSD.org
State-Changed-When: Thu, 05 Nov 2026 01:53:08 +0000
State-Changed-Why:
NetBSD-11 needs to be pulled up. I'll wait a week however for the changes
to bake awhile.
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